ClassCast Podcast

Ep.063 -- Jon Hale -- School Reform, Not School Choice (School Choice Mini-Series Pt.4)

April 12, 2021 Ryan Tibbens Season 2 Episode 63
ClassCast Podcast
Ep.063 -- Jon Hale -- School Reform, Not School Choice (School Choice Mini-Series Pt.4)
Show Notes

ClassCast Podcast Ep.063 features education historian, professor at the University of Illinois, and author Jon Hale discussing school choice, its dark history, and the problems it may spawn in the future. Much of Jon's work focuses on past school choice movements and Civil Rights era freedom schools; he makes invaluable contributions to the on-going ClassCast discussion of school choice and freedom by provide clear historical context and common sense predictions about what the future may hold. Jon's upcoming book, The Choice We Face: How Segregation, Race, and Power Have Shaped America's Most Controversial Education Reform Movement, addresses the same topics in greater detail; he is also the author of The Freedom Schools: Student Activists in the Mississippi Civil Rights Movement and To Write in the Light of Freedom.

Table of Contents (*highlights)

  1. 0:00-5:37 -- The Purpose of Education According to Jon Hale
  2. 5:37-10:51 -- The Appeal of School Choice
  3. 10:51-21:12 -- The History of School Choice & Race **
  4. 21:12-27:38 -- Freedom Schools
  5. 27:38-36:26 -- Jon's Ideal School *
  6. 36:26-39:34 -- Why School Choice Has Momentum & School Reform Doesn't
  7. 39:34-46:23 -- Public Schools & Community Cohesion
  8. 46:23-54:00 -- Are Public Schools Actually Failing? *
  9. 54:00-1:04:04 -- Final Thoughts & Recommendations *

Recent and upcoming ClassCast Podcast episodes feature public school advocates, school choice advocates, and the kind of thoughtful discourse that should inform our national conversation as well as individual listeners' opinions on school choice, public schools, funding, equity, justice, and opportunity. Let us know what you think about each part of this series and how you feel about school choice. 

- School Choice Series Part 1: Ep.060 -- Citizen Stewart -- School Choice & Educational Opportunity (3/21/21)
​- School Choice Series Part 2: Ep.061 -- Jennifer Berkshire -- The False Promises of School Choice (3/29/21)
- School Choice Series Part 3: Ep.062 -- Neal McCluskey -- School Choice & Liberty (4/5/21)

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